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Lindsey Jacobson/ABC News, FILE "I've always been concerned about how It has been called Dr. Seuss Day because of this. Let's just say that in this country an astounding amount of mothers allow their kids to be abused by turning a blind eye or participating with the abuser. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. It has now been revealed that Mike Patty, her grandfather, did this for unknown reasons. For more than five years the search for the killer has consumed the family. Cops also said that a suspect in the case has been identified but it is unclear if it is Allen, or if another person will be named during Monday's briefing. Seem to be a lot of trials going on here in Pueblo, Colorado. Some have said the missing keys were mentioned on the police receivers that night. I realize it was February but they point out it was uncharacteristically warm. It was closed. let gads_event; But I would think a BA in Journalism would suffice. This shows they had a gun cartridge from the scene and it also shows that a shack may well have played a part in this crime. In addition, a number of little girls swimsuits were found in his van. Considering that the killer catfished Libby only via Snapchat for four months and specifically targeted her for the murder, it is interesting because he knew her grandparents well so presumably he was quite familiar with Libby. But now here I have a credible witness, a female member of the search team, who told me about this weird crime scene, and it turns out a lot of the crazy stuff Ive been laughing at all this time may well be true. Sadistic killers get a sexual arousal just from hurting people. But we need more than that to confirm rumors in this case. If the facts herein are correct, I agree his evil appears to have been planned, perhaps even well in advance. Ive been run through the grinder for years over this rumor, and I was trying to avoid it in this post, but I have no choice but talk about it. On the flip side, in the dark world of a killer, a mask and cap obscure recognition. Were also right a lot. Obviously he put that stuff there before the crime or afterwards, but people claim the crime scene was searched in the early evening of the 13th and neither the girls or the items were there, so that looks like the girls were taken away (to a shack?) Wearing a mask outdoors, in the wilderness (& at this stage of the pandemic) could be said to be coming from a thoughtful, conscientious, health-focused person. True, that was a rumor floating around for a while, but we junked that years ago. She didnt know that Abby had a boyfriend, and she sure did. Spreading their legs in that sexually receptive pose was bad enough, but BG did worse than that. KK didnt snitch on Mr. X. Richard Allen was arrested in October for the 2017 deaths of Libby German, 14, and Abigail Williams, 13, but details about the case have remained sealed. WebThe Delphi murders autopsy report remains sealed to this day, authorities say to protect the ongoing investigation. I keep coming back to this theory. Any signs he was abused or struggling somehow, or otherwise operating in an unhealthy state? However, LE said that this mans MO was completely different from the MO used in the Evansdale murders, so he probably didnt do it. Thanks for the comment, Miss! It is associated by child molestation, but not all pedophiles molest, and many can go 20-30 years without offending. The stuffed animal looks to be a Valentines stuffed animal. We have a lot more on Mr. X in this previous update. That looks bad because his alibi said he was in another town altogether. There are a couple of reddish objects that can be very vaguely seen in the center of those camera flashes. Hopefully, this man is ok. Wtf would images like this help rebuild his website? Pretty much nobody. I dont think that Im unique. That is why he needed his there for 18 hrs, also why he couldnt have anyone see inside. Mr. Xowned some property there where he raised goats and hunted deer, but Im not sure what else he did. }) There may be more than two eyewitnesses.s. So hes attempting to profit off of dead babies? Kelsis is the only DNA on the girls and presumably on the other objects at the scene. They are both in the same direction. Im not sure if that means anything. While it is unclear when the photo was taken, Allen's wife posted the image just a year after the teen friends were found dead on an Indiana hiking trail, sparking a five-year-long mystery over their murder. Yeah, this 100%. You just join the private group if you can afford it. Does it say that anymore in the caption? Thats a death sentence in this business, and I take my ethics seriously, unlike increasing numbers of my degenerate colleagues. There is a report on Reddit that I am still pushing a theory that the girls were garroted. Do you think his behavior has anything to do with Libby and Abby? Press J to jump to the feed. His Facebook page is full of photos of little girls. None of this DNA is usable in court. The second sketch, which LE said was actually the real killer, was the catfish used to lure Libby off Snapchat. Welcome to America. This is more important than you think because age attractions of sex killers are an important part of forensics and especially profiling. Ok? The pastor of a small Pentecostal church from Lafayette, Joe Wampler, is Leigh Kerr. Im going on nothing here but the car towing thing happens twice in a short time span and a short distance within eachother. It was parked at the trailhead. I really like much of his work. He lived in Delphi most of the last decade. Keener left the newspaper a short time later. Another comment read: "It's so disrespectful to the families and does ZERO for the investigation.". Mr. X has so far been cooperative with LE. Theyre scared so they keep quiet. "Jaaah?" The animal appears to be holding something in its hand. take off ur shirt and shoe throw it in a river and snap a picture, that's these photos. He doesnt seem to be too wacky. I in no way think their release does any harm to the case or disrespect to the girls. He put them both out of commission in seconds, and he killed both of them within a minute or two. Leaker said LE did not release it because one, even cleaned up, its a complete mess and undecipherable without a lot of expensive equipment, and two, they didnt think it would be of any additional help to release it to the public. I dont know what it takes to be a real journalist . We dont knows the answers to those questions. Beyond that, we have a retired LE officer working with us and we sent him to work with his LE colleagues on Mr. X. Second photo is of what he thinks is a pink sock (if the photo is actually real). The wife is a curious case. Who the hell is he marketing to? So this source is really current LE. I spent a bit of time on their forums studying them. His whereabouts during those 18 hours are a mystery. Perfect. Anyway, pure pedophilia is an age orientation whereby men are maximally attracted to girls under 13 and have little to no attraction to mature females. They are called the Smiley Face Murders because in many cases, smiley faces were seen drawn on bridges where the drowned bodies were found. Sadly, I may have reported that earlier. Lindsey Jacobson/ABC News, FILE MORE: Delphi murders: Suspect charged } Eighth gradersAbby and Libbywent missing while hiking through the woods near Indiana'shistoric Monon High Bridgeon February 13, 2017. I can even think of some serials who are running around free where LE believes that they committed several homicides. I think that is incorrect. This lines up with the Indiana Star article that also discussed Mr. X as a prime Delphi suspect and explored the possibility of a link between Delphi and Evansdale. Women excel at intuition and I think intuition is important for detectives. Im a terrible artist. He obviously thinks the heat is on him. He tried to do some experiments with with tool mark examinations, but seemed kind of ignorant to the whole process. "Please out of respect of the families we don't know if those are true photos.". You want to hold that against me? The older daughter looks remarkably like Libby German, and the younger daughter looks remarkably like Abby Williams in that photo. Especially a sheet hanging up? See, you cant. A second person who was understanding Kelsi's pain wrote, "I can't imagine the heartache that comes with this walk". He also thought the murders had occult or Satanic overtones. I dont have the exact figures, but a match with Mr. X on those nine markers might mean that theres a 1 in 10 chance its him. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), A question has been brought up about how would BG transport these various objects to the crime scene, as they could easily been seen on his person in the photo on the bridge. One of the revelations in those document(s) was that BG fired a gun during this crime. Mr. M has been investigated by the FBI six different times for the Evansdale Murders. That means that the alibi cannot be flipped anymore. I dont even know the provenance of this rumor. i suppose BG could've cleaned it but it still looks too white. . Chadwell lives near Delphi and looks like the man captured by Libby German on Snapchat: Its also noted that on Chadwells Facebook page, he enjoys hiking and has many photos of other scenic bridges in the area. MEAWW cannot confirm them independently and does not support claims or opinions being made online, Baby Mia Jade Riley: Parents Lani and Tom Riley speak out after dog attack killed their 5-week-old infant, Kyle Sambrook: Hiker falls 100ft to death while carrying his dog in one hand through 'appalling' weather, Bruce Willis's mom Marlene 'not sure if her son still recognizes her' as 'aggressiveness' creeps in, Killer mom Lindsay Clancy was suffering from drug withdrawal and had 'worst side effects,' says friend, 'End this crazy show': Julia Wandelt may seek court's help for DNA test to prove she is Madeleine McCann. The same questions posed above apply here too. What in Gods name is he talking about?! gads_event = event; }); If Mr. X is a psychopath (a possibility), then this report lines up perfectly. Heres the latest. They continue to amaze me. We did a lot of sleuthing on Mr. X and learned that he was homeless for a time in the 2000s when he was living in a shelter. Here is what I believe. We had 200 members for a few years. and C.A., two of my very best friends who I have known for what seems like my whole life, or maybe it was just since college. Also note that the girls legs have been spread by the killer, same as they are in the photos below. He was 21 at the time of the crime, and hes a dead perfect match for the second sketch. Ms. C told me that in these misophile networks, the ultimate high is considered to be to be get two little girls at once and rape, torture, and murder them. It looks like he tossed bleach all over everything the girls, the dolls, the plush object, the sheet, the crucifix, the log, you name it. Youre heard the rumor of the gigantic stuffed animal left at the scene? A drug connection appears to be ruled out. I was reading forum back and forths on the whole Mr. X truck towing debacle. He may have child and teen erotica in his home. We know this because of the dirt under Libbys fingernails. The information below comes from three sources. His revelations are here. As far as your question goes, there are a lot of things about this case that make no sense, that being one of them. The FBI for some odd reason felt that the girls had been left alive for a week after they were abducted. Hebephilia is a problem when men have little to no attraction to mature females so the only way to satisfy their sexual urges is to have sex with a 12-15 year old girl. Thats an excellent theory and that is exactly what I am thinking. This behavior is associated with other forms of abuse such as psychological, physical, and verbal abuse. No one knows that sheet is at the scene at all, much less hanging on a tree. The Fire Department only announced the formation of a search party at 7 PM. It was quickly taken down, but there were people who speculated about Keener's reason for posting it. Perhaps they are doing this out of loyalty to their friend. Its sad.. She was sent to me by a sleuther who I consider to be among the finest and most professional of all. By 6:30 it was dark and it would have been hard to see the girls who were in a hidden ravine that was very hard to see. These men are maximally attracted to pubescent girls and have little to no attraction to mature females. He had to do this because he had to keep pretending that he had lost his keys, and obviously his wife had never shown up to bring a new one. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, This is a community where we can speak openly about the Murders of Libby and Abby in Delphi, IN, Press J to jump to the feed. Basically never happens. It has to be BAM. This would be akin to the double cherry murders that some US soldiers committed in the Vietnam War. Ive only ever had to have my car toed once or twice in my life and it was because of malfunction. Its just another form of abuse from an abusive man. Sigh. Thank you for clarifying. I have in my possession what are purported to be leaked photos of the Delphi crime scene where Abby Williams and There are some locals who are going out of their way to protect Mr. X. A fellow sleuth read an article in a local newspaper a few years ago, but she can no longer find the article among her extensive files. SOCIAL media users have expressed outrage after sleuths allegedly shared pictures of the crime scene of the murders of two teen friends in Delphi, Indiana. if(document.querySelector("#adunit")){ I presume he did this after they were dead, so at least they didnt have to suffer this indignity. In addition to Mr. M above, another man was a suspect in the Evansdale Murders. It also makes perfect sense that Delphi was not his first rodeo. Nevertheless, Mr. Xs alibi that he was out of town, came back into town and went to the bridge for no reason, and then decided to search for the girls without knowing they were missing obviously makes no sense. Wow, so many details I have never found before. As far as Gannon Staunch, his stepmom is doing everything she can to slow down the trial. That rumor started when a young man from Delphi published crime scene photos in the week after the murders. I know these guys so well that sometimes I wonder if we are all the same person! eventAction: 'render' At first it was thought that Libby did this herself, possibly after being told to do so by the killer who was catfishing her on Snapchat. Hes just a sock for a guy named Scott Alexander, and Alexander isnt Leaker either. Men who kill teenage girls and women almost never commit sexual murders of little girls. "The people who worked with him had no clue and were just as surprised as everyone else," the source said. } window.googletag.pubads().addEventListener('slotRenderEnded', function(event) { }); The photos were blown up and manipulated with software in a Youtube video by a theoretical physicist who seems credible. Allen has denied any involvement in the girls' deaths and pleaded not guilty. The van is the suspect vehicle because it was seen at the trailhead just before the girls vanished. What she told me, if validated, is one of the most bizarre and insane double murders of the 21st century. They didnt. All normal males fall into this category. The female searcher at the crime scene who reported the white sheet with the smiley face on it decribed it to me as a white sheet, not a white scarf, so I think we are looking at two different items. From what it sounds like now, Xs truck was just a mere hop skip and a jump from the killzone. Its not far-fetched that he unloaded that stuff from the back of his truck at some point whether before or after he killed those girls. People on there are saying it came from my website. The grieving 22-year-old Kelsi wrote, "We take this walk every year, this year felt different but I miss you the same." He was wearing a hunting hat identical to BGs hunting cap. He says my car got boxed in and they towed it, come help me. window.googletag.pubads().addEventListener('slotOnload', function(event) { I have seen kids standing outside of a 7/11 doing nothing more than loitering get grilled harder than an apparent murderer standing in the midst of the crime scene. There is a child serial killer who has killed several little girls over the past 10-20 years. We have trial by jury in this country, and everyone is innocent until proven guilty. Gavin Fish. He went into a number of details about Mr. X. . This is beyond the pale for even most serial killers. First, a pitch for support for this website and our sleuthing group: Our private group is clearly the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Internet by far and has been since it was founded four years ago in 2017. A few cases recently have been solved by DNA of sex murders of young women committed by young men who then went on to live perfectly normal lives, marrying and raising kids, until they were caught by DNA in their 60s and 70s. (without being too graphic--I am referring to blood/bodies etc). There was also a large white sheet left at the scene with a smiley face scrawled on it. On February 14, 2017, the bodies of Abigail "Abby" Williams and Liberty "Libby" German were discovered off a hiking trail in Delphi, Indiana, United States, after the young girls had disappeared from the same trail the previous day. I know one man who lived nearby said the FBI came by and wanted to see any guns that he had and also wanted to know if he had any shacks on his property. He was cleared of involvement in the case. After talking to his LE colleagues for a while, he got back to us. Im guessing this is what they are referring to. Another thing is the so called scarfpossibly the sheet? Law enforcement is not focused on building a case at the time but stopping another incident. That said, these protectors probably ought to be named because their behavior is pretty off. I had previously thought that BG had a normal age orientation for the above reasons. Snitched on him in jail, likely so his own sick charges would be reduced. DAs wont dare touch a homicide case, much less a serial or multiple homicide case, unless they think they have enough evidence for a conviction. Another crazy rumor, that of a bleach bottle left at the scene, was also validated by the woman. And then Gannon Staunch, who was most likely murdered by his stepmother, then buried here in Colorado Springs, and later dug up and dumped along a bridge construction site in Florida. Were gonna keep after it.. Also, Leaker said that the girls were not sexually assaulted with the killers body, implying that they may have been with inanimate objects. Second, as I repeated above, I am bound by journalistic ethics not to make up lies out of whole cloth. The killer appears to have thrown bleach over both girls and over all of the objects at the scene. I wouldnt say he wants to be caught but he definitely gets his jollies by taking his chances. I think that the picture of the doll being covered with a sheet is pretty offensive to people who have lost children. This is the price you pay to live in a free country. Alt Left: Truly Confused Here: How on Earth Is This Article of Mine Racist? If you followed Leigh Kerrs leak on Reddit, Leaker said that LE has a prime suspect in this case. Theyre crawling all over the page. Delphi murders: Liberty German's grieving sister posts throwback photo on 14-year-old's death anniversary. But really, if these crime scene rumors are true, just about anything, including the most insane notions, may be correct about this craziest of crimes. "However small it may seem, it's extremely vital that we get every tip we can get. I stopped at age 21 because I didnt want to go to jail. The forthcoming update comes after Indiana State Police trooperssearched the Wabash River in Peru, Indiana, last monthnear the home of a man who is believed to be tied to the investigation. They searched shacks in the area after the crime. ", Another person wrote, "I hope and pray for justice for your sister and her friend, and all of you who love them. Its been said that I made up this rumor as some sick fantasy of mine. As if a suspects wife and daughter would not be expected to vouch for him. 7 Abby Williams, 13, and her best friend Libby German, 14, were murdered in February 2017 Credit: Facebook 7 Trashing Leaker, Part 2. If he is really as clever as some think (Im still undecided on that), I realize there are many ways around this. Among the many insane arguments against me, one is that I pretend to be a journalist. Im actually trained as a journalist. Also one of the people who saw him walking away from the crime said his face was still obscured by the white scarf, so it looks like he wore the white scarf away from the scene. Your email address will not be published. They never mention DNA underneath her fingernails, but then again the bleach measure would nullify it anyways. One of the things people on Reddit are saying is that they were shocked at how closely Leakers revelations resembled things that Ive been saying for years. Who does this? Well, guess what? Theyre asking anyone who has any relevant information to call the tip line at(765) 822-3535. The pair of eighth-graders spent the afternoon posting photos Please, we need your help.". WordPress never uttered one peep to me about my Delphi coverage. Little girl children? This article contains remarks made on the internet by individual people and organizations. Probably most of these men repress or suppress their hebephilic urges which will land them in prison if they act on them and instead focus on their prosocial urges towards adult women, which are completely legal. That rumor was so pathetic that I discounted it immediately as ridiculous. Yes, he was parked at the CPS building (its Crop Protection Service) before the killings and then cemetery after the killings to stage the scene, correct! Carroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenby said they are now looking into Chadwell for the Delphi murders. I did have sex with underage teenage girls 14-17 for four years during the ages of 18-21. Remember the bizarre Smiley Face Murders, the possible drownings of severely intoxicated young adult college age men in the Eastern US over a period of 10-20 years? She told me that both girls legs were spread. By the way, the man who did the labeling was a sheriff in a nearby county who joined our group incognito. Ive heard other killers used this signature, including a child killer in Indiana who was executed just last year who had rammed an object inside the vagina of a little girl he killed. The importance lies in the degree of the attractions relative to other ages. Anna Williams, the mother of Abby Williams, didnt have any comment as she left the press conference. I have no idea what the cryptic references to The Shack movie were all about. There would be no way to know whether the keys were there because he killed the girls or because he was helping in the search efforts. People have gone to the crime scene and fired guns, and you can hear them from the bridge for sure. Dealing with haters. She came upon the site after the girls had been found. Gee, how did that happen? If a man doesnt think 16 year old girls are disgusting old ladies, he cant possibly be a hebephile. Looks legit, but I don't know for sure. Maybe just coincidence but just strikes me as odd that theres all this dubious car towing going on in this small town during this time. Especially poorly educated ones who don't understand art and artistic expression. window.googletag.pubads().addEventListener('impressionViewable', function(event) { I do talk to your wife on Facebook. hitType: 'event', Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. After he found the girls, Mr. X said called his wife and ran from the scene. These LE guys are extremely smart and crafty. In quite a few countries, 15 year old girls are legal, so hebephiles may stay out of trouble there. Leaker stirred up a huge storm and a large consensus is that hes a liar and a fraud. He couldnt tell Logan he was searching for his keys as that would have raised red flags once police arrived, so he went with the excuse that he was searching for the girls. . }); There is another very odd character named Caleb Bowlin, a Delphi resident. Its pretty clear that at least one cartridge was probably found at the scene because in the document(s), it says that LE is looking for a gun in connection with this crime in order to do ballistics tests on it. A gun was absolutely used though. Hes pure integrity, a class act. Now hes in even more trouble. Mr. X has two children, a younger daughter who is a very out lesbian and an older daughter, about 30 and unmarried. Also if Mr X were in fact our guy, might this be the reason for the mixup regarding the lost key situation? ga('ads.send', { He was controlling them with the gun in his right pocket. However, these experts transcribed what they thought was being said in this encounter. It doesnt get any worse than that. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), Many people say there is nothing there but pixellation and artifacts. We dont know he was parked at the cemetery. 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